Gazelka pledges ‘fact-finding’ Senate hearings
Kevin Featherly//April 14, 2021//
Gazelka pledges ‘fact-finding’ Senate hearings
Kevin Featherly//April 14, 2021//
Following the slaying in Brooklyn Center of another Black man in police custody Sunday, Democratic lawmakers of color are demanding tough new police-accountability laws that, in 2021, the GOP-led Senate has held at bay.
On Tuesday, Senate Majority Leader Paul Gazelka, R-East Gull Lake, responded coolly to demands from House Judiciary Chair Jamie Becker-Finn, DFL-Roseville, and others for hearings to pass police reforms that go further than those lawmakers passed in 2020.
Gazelka pledged Tuesday that the Senate would hold hearings, which House Public Safety Vice Chair Cedrick Frazier, DFL-New Hope, cautiously considered a good sign. “That’s welcome news,” he said. “We’re glad to hear that, and we’re glad to engage in a conversation.”
Speaking at a Tuesday press conference, Gazelka noted that the double whammy of the ongoing Derek Chauvin trial and Daunte Wright’s death during a Sunday traffic stop have tensions again boiling over. “It feels like it’s a powder keg out there,” he said. “And we have to figure out how to get through it.”
But he would not commit to passing any new legislation, at least not during the current legislative session. The top priority right now, he said, is passage of the constitutionally mandated two-year state budget. Failure to pass one could lead to a government shutdown, he said.
On Tuesday, Senate DFL members of the People of Color and Indigenous (POCI) Caucus confronted that possibility head on. They called for the immediate suspension of all budget negotiations until both the House and Senate have adopted police accountability legislation.
While Gazelka said Senate hearings will be held in the next two weeks by Senate Transportation Chair Scott Newman, R-Hutchinson, and Senate Judiciary Chair Warren Limmer, R-Maple Grove, he described them more as listening sessions than bill hearings.
“The hearings are for fact-finding at this point,” he said. “We want to listen to where people are on these issues.”
Gazelka went out of his way Tuesday to tamp down expectations for new police-accountability legislation in the near future. “I’m not saying it’s impossible,” he said. “I’m just saying we’re in the last five weeks and we just started passing the budget bills and that makes things very, very difficult in the short timeframe.”
The selection of Newman and Limmer as leaders of those hearings likely will irritate progressives.
Though Gazelka said the new round of hearings will be held in each chair’s committee, last summer they co-chaired several joint Transportation/Public Safety riot oversight hearings, ostensibly to trace the roots of the civil unrest following the death of George Floyd.
Democrats condemned the process and the report derived from it as political theater. The oversight committee engaged police and political leaders, but heard from few affected community members. It even limited DFL senators’ testimony. What resulted, critics contended, was little more than campaign material for the 2020 elections.
Speaking by phone late Tuesday, House Public Safety Chair Carlos Mariani, DFL-St. Paul, expressed concern that the dynamic that played out through last summer’s oversight hearings could repeat during the upcoming Senate hearings.
“Their dominant posture has been to do nothing, to ask no questions, to not engage in the full conversation,” Mariani said. “Their history tells me that it’s going to be a pretty shallow engagement.”
Frazier said Tuesday that it shouldn’t be necessary for senators to hold new hearings, anyway—if what they are interested in is legislation to protect Black men and other people of color from dangerous police encounters. All they need to do, he said, is consider those proposals, which are in DFL House omnibus bills, in upcoming Public Safety/Judiciary conference committee hearings.
“They have the ability to do that,” Frazier said. “I mean, they need to have the will to do that. But they absolutely have the ability to do that procedurally.”

The POCI Caucus and the United Black Legislative Caucus (UBLC) held their own press conference Tuesday to express anger and frustration over Wright’s death, and to demand reform.
“He was a good kid, he did not deserve any of what happened to him,” Rep. Samantha Vang, DFL-Brooklyn Center, chair of the POCI Caucus, said of the 20-year-old Wright. “We will fight for justice for Daunte to change our broken system, which continuously puts Black men in danger.”
Frazier, a freshman legislator and attorney, pointed at Limmer and Gazelka as twin roadblocks to substantive reform. Limmer, in particular, weakened last year’s reforms, Frazier said, and has refused to take up DFL proposals included in this year’s House Public Safety omnibus.
“Let me say this plainly,” Frazier said. “We have to insist that Black lives matter, because after another life was lost, we heard from Senator Limmer—the legislator who worked to weaken reforms last year—that those weakened reforms were enough. They’re not enough.”
Gazelka suggested that those reforms actually were enough. When asked whether it would be necessary to pass substantive laws to avoid re-igniting the powder keg he referenced earlier, Gazelka said, “Absolutely not. I think people need to know the work that has been done.”
At one level, Mariani agreed. It is important, he said, for citizens to understand that the Legislature achieved important strides last summer when it banned chokeholds, required officers to report excessive use of force and made other changes to police policy and practices.
“I’m not sure he [Gazelka] understands what we’ve already done,” Mariani said. “And I’m not sure that the Senate is an authority on telling the public that they’ve done enough.”
During Tuesday’s POCI/UBLC press conference—which Mariani didn’t attend because he was ill—lawmakers called for several key pieces of legislation to be immediately passed.
Among changes not included in existing omnibus bills are:
Other POCI Caucus priority measures include:
Asked Tuesday whether he could rule in or out any DFL police-accountability legislation, Gazelka was non-committal.
“We’re going to take a look at that,” he said. “That’s part of the reason I’m saying we want to do some hearings.”