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In response to a recent post on law schools, we received a reply from a prospective law student (Jackie) trying to pick between two local schools -- Hamline and William Mitchell.

Hamline or William Mitchell? Incoming 1L wants to know

In response to a recent post on law schools, we received a reply from a prospective law student (Jackie) trying to pick between two local schools — Hamline and William Mitchell. The commenter has already decided to take the plunge and go to law school (so “Don’t do it!” warnings are unnecessary). Any advice for the soon-to-be 1L?

I am trying to decide whether to go to William Mitchell or Hamline. I start this fall. It seems like there are more networking opportunities at Hamline than WM, which is important in such a competitive market, and more focus on practical skills than theory, so as to land that job. But as far as everything else, I’m not sure. Most likely, I need to stay in the Twin Cities after I graduate. What’s going to give me the best edge? Classes start in less than two months. I’ve looked at both schools information and am still at a loss. The question for me is not whether to go to law school or not. My question, is where. Help??  — Jackie


  1. I went to UST so I consider myself somewhat impartial. First, I’m not sure why you assume that a school that has been around for less than four decades has better networking opportunities than a school that has been around for (arguably) more than 100 years.

    Second, it probably does not matter which one you choose. If you are at the top of your class and distinguish yourself at either, then you will be competitive after you graduate from either. But, when I say that you will be competitive, that does not mean you will be earning $125,000 per year at Faegre, necessarily. You will probably be somewhere between $45,000 and $75,000 when you land your job. If you are at the bottom of your class and do not gain professional legal experience throughout law school, then you will probably find yourself struggling to find employment–especially if you are not willing to leave the Twin Cities.

    Finally, is your choice between these two law schools because they were only schools to which you have been admitted or these are the only schools to offer you a full scholarship? If these are the only schools to which you have been admitted, then I hope you truly consider what $50,000, $75,000, $100,000 or $125,000+ of non-dischargeable student loan debt means. There are calculators online for you to analyze your monthly loan obligations. For example, $100,000 in debt translates into a $1,150 payment per month for ten years. That takes a huge bite out of even a respectable $75,000 salary. If you got a full scholarship both (or your are independently wealthy), then have fun!

  2. If I read only your description of the schools, I would have them the other way around. Mitchell is known for its practical skills courses and clinics. Getting practical skills extends beyond the clinics because many of the professors are adjuncts who also practice, so I felt like I had good practice tips in many of my classes. (e.g. Many of my upper-level courses focused on drafting, clients, and/or on Minnesota law, all of which have been very helpful to me in practice.)

    I don’t know what networking opportunities are available at Hamline, but Mitchell has more alumni, which can be good for networking. I have heard that the alumni network at Hamline is good, though (Hamline grads hire Hamline grads, or something like that). As important as it is to network, if you take the time to do it, you will probably see the benefit at either school. That won’t matter too much a few years after graduation because if you participate in networking you’ll meet people as you go, regardless of your alma mater.

    I don’t know what tuition is these days, but if you will have a significant difference in debt between either of your choices (from tuition, scholarships, etc.), I would pick whatever will give you the best financial situation upon graduation. Although I only attended one school so I can’t give you a true comparison, I don’t think they are so different that whatever you miss in education by picking one over the other couldn’t be made up with experience after graduation or during school. If you have so much debt that you can’t afford to take whatever job comes your way — or for that matter, to do what you really want to do — then it doesn’t matter where you went to school because you won’t have a satisfying career.

  3. I would generally agree with Mitchell Grad’s comments. Hamline was a very good experience for me. I also had a lot of professors who were practicing or had recently practiced and were able to make legal issues come alive. Your legal education will be what you make of it, wherever you go. I would go to the school that is offering the best financial aid package. When you get there, network, get real experience and do as well as you can academically.

  4. Full scholarship @ WMCL > Full scholarship @ Hamline
    Half scholarship @ WMCL > Full scholarship @ Hamline
    Full price @ WMCL Half scholarship @ Hamline
    Full price @ WMCL > Full price @ Hamline

    Consider these ratios when making your decision. The only way I’d recommend Hamline over Mitchell is if you had a free ride at the former versus sticker price at the latter. Mitchell has a deeper history and more extensive alumni network in MN.

  5. These schools are basically the same when it comes to legal placement. You should take whichever gives you the most money. Keep your debt as low as possible and either will provide a good education.

    You could also retake the LSAT and see if you can get into UST (not much harder) or UMinn (much harder).

  6. Making the choice between Mitchell and Hamline is simple: Mitchell is the better choice. I know many big-firm lawyers (and people in the government, and people at non-profits, etc.) who went to Mitchell and loved it. Mitchell is a fine school with solid legal education. And their career services people work very hard indeed. On the other hand, understanding that this is anecdotal evidence, I don’t know a single practicing lawyer who went to Hamline. So if that’s your dilemma, there’s a simple solution.
    But please reconsider. Mitchell and Hamline are both terrible choices for the vast majority of students. Almost everybody after graduation finds that their job choices are very limited, their career trajectories are flat, and they can’t get the kind of experience they want. . The very best people in any school will do fine. Chances are, I’m sorry to say, that you will not be in the top of the class.
    You are worried about getting “the best edge” and the competitive job market. If those thoughts occur to you, law school is probably not a good choice. The market has changed very drastically in the last 20 years (and especially in the last five). Lawyers are big money earners like professional athletes. In 1950, most lawyers apparently made a good living in a profession. But now, a few percent will succeed (however they define it): great work, helping people, lots of money, whatever floats their boat. Most everyone else will be sniffing on the ground for any work they can find to pay their bills. It’s a sad life.
    If you want to practice law at a firm—and worrying about “landing a job” sounds like you’re headed in that direction—you would be foolish to attend any twin cities school besides the U of M. If you are even remotely considering leaving the twin cities, Mitchell, Hamline, or UST will, practically speaking, make it impossible for you to find a job in another city. If a school’s not Stanford, NYU, in the ivy league, or the best school in your region, you’re almost certainly making a mistake.
    So the party’s over and the big money’s gone away, but you’re not in it for the money, perhaps! You may have a calling (“I want to live like a hermit and fight for the spotted owl”). But you can make a better choice. Because there’s somebody at Harvard or Yale who wants to do good just as much as you do. And the spotted owl would prefer a Harvard-educated lawyer.
    Maybe you love lawyering with all your heart & soul. Maybe you are totally comfortable making $40,000 a year and paying $1,000 a month to the bank. Maybe your uncle Floyd is a medical malpractice / PI magnate and he’ll give you all the court time you want. Maybe you have some kind of talent or specialty (accomplished mariner? medical doctor? banker specializing in international deals?) that means you’ll be scooped up after graduation. But with rare exception, you graduate, fight like heck for a job, and get stuck with whatever job you can find. And maybe you hate it, but those loan bills aren’t going to pay themselves.
    It is foolhardy to start law school now. If you didn’t know that before, you do now.

  7. I’m a 2009 Hamline grad. I graduated with honors. I’m still unemployed. There’s a data point for you.
    Good luck!

    PS — it’s not too late to go to medical school.

  8. I would advise neither. For what it’s worth, I wouldn’t advise my own school, either.

  9. @ BigLaw:

    In every single one of these “choosing-a-Minnesota-law-school” threads, at least one person has to imply that UST is somehow a demonstrably better school than Mitchell. It isn’t. It’s entirely possible that this prospective student could’ve attended UST, but doesn’t want to.

    Why not focus on the real question, which is: Mitchell or Hamline?

  10. Another from the U

    My understanding is that Mitchell has the stronger alum network, given that it’s been around much longer, but Hamline is well known for its public service program. If I were choosing between the two I’d take Mitchell, unless Hamline was offering a lot more money.

    As for the folks talking about how bad the legal market is – yeah, it’s bad. Yeah, loans are tough. But if you go into this with your eyes open, you can do it. I know recent graduates from both schools with jobs. If you expect to have work handed to you on a silver platter, then this isn’t the path for you, but if you’re willing to work hard, you can succeed no matter what school you end up going to.

  11. Do not go to law school. The legal market is terrible, and it is going to keep getting worse: law classes are getting larger and larger. Top 1/4 students from UMN Law are having trouble finding jobs. You will be eaten alive unless those schools are offering you full-ride scholarships.

  12. Dear Minnesota Lawyer – “Stories” like this asking for comparisons of law schools are not helpful or informative. Please stop.

  13. I agree with “Another from the U.” You will have to hunt for jobs in this economy no matter where you went to.

    But certainly it makes a difference as to the reputation of your school, regionally and nationally. That holds true no matter how the economy is doing.

    Consider that WM jumped up two tiers in the rankings coincident with the USNWR shifting objective measures to subjective measures in its scoring. Subjectivity accounts in hiring; you’re more likely to find an employer thinking “I know more WM folks” than “WM has the same LSAT / GPA as Hamline.”

    Finally, go take a look at both campuses if you haven’t. I hate to knock Hamline for this, but it went and created a beautiful MBA facility at the same time it let its law students languish in classrooms that lack natural lighting and sufficient heating/ventilation.

    And I’ll say it again, despite the commandment not to try to talk you out of law school — after all, you are owed the truth — why not consider something else? Take a look at other careers. Retake the LSAT. But don’t just let the currents of life lead you into an area of sharp rocks; there are plenty of signs posted warning you of what is ahead.

  14. “Enough already” — I think the commenter who asked the question is legitimately on the fence about which law school to go to and wanted some guidance. Some of these comments I thought were pretty insightful — although there was also the predictible school-bashing, which I suspect “Jackie” will see through. I wish her well with her legal education — and, for my own part — I would add that each of the schools has qualities to recommend it.

    I have met impressive grads who have done/ are doing fascinating things from all four local schools. (For the record, I have also heard from some bitter and unemployed folk from all four local schools.) I went to law school out of maket (i.e. Boston College), so I don’t have any horse in this race. If you want to go to a big firm out of Minnesota, the U is your best shot. Other than that, I’d say — assuming you want to be a lawyer despite all the admonitions about the flooded legal market you’ve seen here — go to place most in line with your personality and goals, and excel.

    Part of your fate will always be in the hands of the gods, no matter what you do. Where you go to law school is a relatively small part of the equation.

  15. Another piece of anecdotal evidence in support id Mitchell…I attended a Federal Bar Association sponsored for summer associates today at the US Courthouse in Minneapolis. Chief Judge Davis asked the audience of ~60 to raise their hands to represent which schools they attended. Probably 15 from the U of M, 8-10 from Mitchell, 5 or so from St Thomas and 2 from Hamline. The rest were from out of state.

    The legal market is terrible right now, no real news flash there. But if you are going to choose a MN school either go to the U and make sure to place in the top 25%, or go to Mitchell on a scholarship and place in the top 10%. If you can’t do that, don’t go to law school in the Twin Cities. And I’m not just saying that with regards to placing at a large firm, I’m saying that about having a chance at getting a legal job period when you graduate.

    Hamline should never be an option.

  16. Mark says “Enough already.” And he’s right. But any person considering law school needs to have the information the disgruntled (rightfully so) posters here provide. In my view, the posters explaining that the choice between Mitchell/Hamline won’t much matter have it right. What will matter is where you land in your class — because that will make all the difference in landing your first job. And that first job, whether it’s your dream or not, is your stepping stone for the second job and so on. Oftentimes without a good first stone, it’s hard to make the jump you want. I’d say the same thing to someone choosing between the U (my alum) or any school. Mark is right too, however, go to school and excel and you will have opportunities.

  17. Summer Associate Class for a large Minneapolis firm based on law school attendance:

    8 – Minnesota
    2 – Chicago
    2 – Iowa
    2 – St. Thomas
    1 – Harvard
    1 – Michigan
    1 – Wisconsin

    Hamline and WM did not place a single student in the class. I wouldn’t go to either.

  18. @ BigLaw:

    Again, please, for the sanity of all Minnesota lawyers, law students, and members of the legal community: stop the UST madness. One firm’s choices does not an excellent school make. Don’t make us examine the school’s ridiculously large Napoleon complex any further.

  19. I agree Anon 08. I’m a ust grad and I don’t get why some ust supporters feel a need to bash the others. Fellow UST law grads – we are okay – we do not need to bash other law grads in order to be okay – let’s all take a deep breath. this posting is bait and if you are a ust grad and you spoke poorly of WM or Hamline, you took the bait. both wm and hamline are fine schools. it’s more about the student and what s/he does while at school. no school guarantees anything.

  20. I agree with Enough Already. This type of posting just invites bashing. Let Jackie do her own homework. If she wants to work in biglaw, then she can check the firms’ websites and see where their lawyers went to school. If she wants to do something else, she should contact people in those areas and find out what qualifications are most important in hiring. 19 random comments on a blog can’t really be all that helpful. In my mind, their potentially prejudicial effect outweighs their probative value.

  21. If you can only gain admission to Hamline and William Mitchell then you probably should not attend law school at all. Today’s legal job market is very different from what it was in 1960 when graduating as a lawyer almost guaranteed you at least middle class success. Today we have a HUGE OVERSUPPLY of attorneys nationwide, not just in Minnesota. A great many new graduates and older graduates cannot find jobs in the field and end up having incurred over $100,000 of non-dischargeable (in bankruptcy) student loan debt and essentially wasted three years of their lives. Also, the huge oversupply of lawyers means that this is a very miserable, cutthroat profession–even the people who can find work in the field are often very unhappy and have a lower quality of life than they would have if they had entered other fields. What about going solo? The solo market is oversaturated with other people who had the exact same idea.

    Unless you have a parent or a relative who has essentially guaranteed you a job after graduation, don’t go. Also, please please do your research before you go. Visit the Law School Scambusting community’s blogs. You can find links to them along with more information and links to articles about the state of the legal job market here:


    Also, check out the latest study on my blog about the lawyer-to-population ratio and the rate of lawyer production:


    Anyone who is considering going to law school owes it to themselves to investigate the sad reality of the legal job market.

  22. I went to an allegedly fourth tier (per US News), regional law school not in this region; my top grades did help me land my first job in Minnesota despite not being from here, and I competed for that job against the creme-de-la-creme from all the Minnesota schools plus Ivy League and other first tier schools. Maybe I was lucky. Well, I was lucky. But now I am now amost 20 years into a satisfying, varied legal career that has included work at the Minnesota Supreme Court , Minnesota Attorney General’s office, in-house corporate at a Fortune 100 company and two large non-profits, and some private practice. My testimony is that I received as good a legal education at my law school as my colleagues who went to U of MN, Mitchell, Hamline, Columbia, Harvard, and other big names, and so will you. The only thing they got that I didn’t was a foot in the door because of the name on the diploma — this isn’t nothing, but it is far from the most important thing. After you land your first job, nobody cares where you went to school; they care about whether you can do the job.

    So I’d recommend choosing the school that feels the best to you, where students seems to be happiest and most engaged, and where they gripe the least and are most proud of their school. If Hamline and Mitchell are even on those scores, consider price, commuting convenience, scenery, whatever you want. But wherever you go, study hard, use the resources that are available, do your best, and have a good time.

  23. I had the same internal debate when I chose my law school four years ago. I attended WM as a part-time student while a couple of my friends attended the part-time program at Hamline. I would disagree with the comment that Hamline had more “networking opportunities” than WM as my friends would come to WM’s networking events with me. If you are looking to stay in Minnesota, I would recommend WM; the alumni network is amazing, there are lots of inter-class networking opportunities and mentoring programs, the attorney-student networking events occur at least twice a year (this spring’s WM-ABA/SBA networking event included 40 attorneys), and the clinic programs are amazing for experience (check out the Pioneer Press, Star Tribune & Kare11 for reports from this past year on different clinics at WM where students have made a difference).

    However, there are already posts to this regard, but law school is what you make it. Like I said, I attended law school part-time (working full-time) and was NOT in the top 5/10/20% of my class, but I did end up with an associate position at a great firm where most of my associate class is top 5/10% because I networked like crazy. No matter where you go, you cannot just expect a career to fall in your lap and you must be ready to work for it.

  24. You don’t mention scholarships. If you don’t have them coming into law school based on your past academic performance, it’s highly unlikely you’ll do well enough to distinguish yourself in a 4th-tier school at the level you’d need to in order to be able to get a job.
    Reality: 4th-tier school. Networking opportunities are the same. Think before you decide you want to commit yourself to crushing debt and the ignominy of being a 4th class lawyer unable to get a job.

    -2006 law school grad from MN

  25. George Claseman

    As a graduate of William Mitchell (Twice), I would normally recommend it for someone who is currently employed and wants to continue their education. That was my situation and my choices were U of M, William Mitchell and Arizona State since those were the only schools to which I had applied. My decision was based primarily upon the fact that I could continue to work full time and attend law school evenings. In fact, by the end of the first year, most of the students were clerking virtually full time at one of the law firms if they did not have a full time job elsewhere.

    I had no intention of ever practicing law when I entered or even when I graduated from Law School. I started working as a finance officer in a local suburban school district in the Twin Cities when I obtained my BS Bus. Adm. degree from the University of Minnesota. An uncle who was the Registrar for a university in another state convinced me that the law degree would be very beneficial in business and in government work such as the local school district. At that time the newly elected Chancellor of the University where he worked had a degree in business and a law degree. He did not have any degree in education.

    After working in law related entities for almost 20 years in Minnesota, I moved west and am now in private practice moving towards retirement.

    For someone who needs to work and also want’s to continue their education, I would still recommend William Mitchell as an excellent option even though the cost has escalated dramatically.

  26. For all four Minnesota schools, the average debt per student is around 100k (class of 2010). This does not include undergraduate debt. Tuition is rising for undergraduates too. Currently, an undergraduate degree costs somewhere between 25-50k for most people.

    When offering advice to students on whether to enroll in law school, please consider that the class of 2013 will probably average nearly 200k in debt (law + undergrad).

  27. As a Hamline alum, and former partner at one of the big three in Minneapolis, I chose Hamline because of the collegiality and cooperative learning environment. And yes, I chose it over some “better” schools, including one in a much higher tier. And not once have I regretted that choice. I had a fabulous three years, made life-long friends, and have had an absolutely amazing 15-year legal career, with much more on the horizon. The support and friendships from students, faculty and alumni should not be under-valued, particularly in a time when those connections may be the key to placement after graduation.

    I am now in-house at a Fortune 500 company, and (other than in the initial search out of law school which sucks no matter what school you went to!) I have never felt that my choice of school has limited or impacted my ability to land key jobs, clients, etc.

    As a partner at a firm, I will say Hamline’s alums had consistently better research and writing skills than other Minnesota schools. I’m not sure if that is because the legal research and writing professors at Hamline are generally full-time (rather than adjunct), but that was my experience, shared by other (non-Hamline) partners.

    I also still feel very connected to the school and the faculty and students, which I think is rare among law schools.

    Wherever you end up will be great, though– and being a lawyer actually can be a very fun and rewarding career, if you choose to make it so!

  28. Big 3? You mean Big 2?

  29. Judge Advocate

    I attended Hamline and am currently an active-duty military attorney. I’m happy to say that I belong to an organization that doesn’t discriminate on what school you went to. Instead, the only thing we care about is your ability to do your job.

    With my (apparently) overpriced, and useless Hamline education, I make a comfortable living, have a thriving legal practice and live in Stuttgart, Germany. I have had the pleasure of practicing law throughout the world.

    Ultimately, regardless of which school you attend, there are no guarantees. Your actions and behaviors will determine whether you are successful or not. An incompetent graduate from a top tier school will ultimately be identified as incompetent and find themselves on the street.

    One last thing to consider–many of the commentators advocating not going to law school are self-dealers. They have an interest in keeping the pool of lawyers small, but while the world can do without more lawyers, it can benefit from more “good” lawyers.

  30. @ Top 10 (in # of Attys) Minneapolis Firm

    The right question, though, is whether to go to law school or not.

    First thing you should consider—money. If you have to take out more than 75K in loans to graduate from law school (don’t forget to add tuition and living expenses loans if needed), do not go. That is an arbitrary number, so feel free to go up or down a few thousand, but the figure is generally correct.

    As other comments have correctly pointed out, unless you graduate top of your class with a good resume (good grades and some honors such as moot court or law review) and gain experience between your 1L summer and graduation, you are out of luck—certainly for any good private practice position (and given the experience of some of my colleagues gunning for good positions in the public sector, the same holds true). By top of your class this means top 10.0%. Though some may look at a class rank of top 12.4%, etc., now practicing, I know that many places use this number as an automatic cut off to sift through the sometimes hundreds of applications. It is an easy starting point, and when firms have the pick of the litter, so to speak, firms don’t need to look beyond this number. This isn’t to say that this holds true for all firms, certainly other factors can make up for a lower class rank, but when you are gambling with high amounts of debt and fighting for a position against equally qualified people, it is important to take this into consideration (and acknowledge that you truly have no clue how well you will do in law school).

    Even if you have all of the above, you will still be competing against 50-70 or more people for each position (regardless of the quality of the position) with equally impressive credentials (and by 50-70 I mean 200-300 people probably applied, and based on cover letters/resumes, they chose 50-70 to review).

    If you are taking out more than 75K in loans, you are better off going to Vegas and putting it all on red—literally. This is the Minnesota legal market right now, which you are generally limited to by going to a regional law school (aka Hamline or Mitchell). If you are taking out 75K or less in loans, I think that you could follow your “dream” and go to law school. If you do not get a good job, you will have somewhat manageable debt and a degree. You will be able to “make ends meet” with a low 40-60K starting salary (based on certain loan repayment options).

    Second thing to consider—which school. Your question—Hamline or Mitchell. I went to Mitchell, so I am biased. I think the comments on scholarships/debt are correct. Go to the school that will graduate you with the least amount of debt. That being said, between the two, Mitchell is the clear choice. I clerked at a top 10 firm and now work as an associate at another top 10 firm (in terms of size). I see very (very) few Hamline graduates and a lot of Mitchell graduates—overall possibly 5 to 1 ratio and for new hires, possibly 10 to 1 ratio (meaning you may have some older Hamline grad attorneys, but not necessarily new hires). Other comments have touched on this so I will not reiterate what has already been said.

    Current job market examples—at my large firm, over 300 people applied for this position. They reviewed approximately 70 applications, interviewed 25, called back 6, and hired 1. Along with my resume I have no doubt the recommendations I had from partners at my previous firm (that could not hire due to slow economy) helped. Law school classmate of mine applied for assistant county attorney position. Over 250 people applied, they reviewed 50, interviewed 15, called back 4, hired 1 (my classmate, who also had great recommendations from another county attorneys office where he worked that also could not hire). Another law school classmate of mine, applied for position at approximately 35 attorney firm. Over 200 people applied, they interviewed 25, and hired 1 (not my classmate). Another law school classmate also graduated top of our class, honors, moot court, some legal experience, and is still trying to find a job—ANY job. I have several other classmates that were middle of the road that are still unemployed a year later with debt between 80 and 140K.

    Of course the market could be different when you graduate in 3 to 4 years, but you will most likely be up against these numbers, and competing against the hundreds of law students the four metro area law schools pump out each year, law school graduates that are still looking for jobs, and the tens of thousands of attorneys that have been laid off across the country that are looking for jobs. Ultimately it is a gamble—pays off for some, but certainly not the vast majority. As they say in Vegas, “GOOD LUCK!”

    I do wish you the best, though feel obligated to give you this (gloomy) picture. Just my opinion based on what I have seen and experienced. As others have mentioned, it could work out very well for you, but it is far from a guarantee.

  31. @ Top 10 (in # of Attys) Minneapolis Firm

    I would also be cautious of comments from people that are not recent graduates. We are in a whole new world and economy now. Comments from retired partners or people with self-sustaining careers no longer dependent on being hired or getting work from someone else have a very different view of the current legal job market. The hiring process 10 to 15 years ago is much different than it is now.

  32. @ Top 10 (in # of Attys) Minneapolis Firm

    One last comment–William Mitchell ranked as a top 100 law school; Hamline is Tier 4.

  33. Enough Already 2

    This is a pointless question if you can’t figure it out for yourself.

  34. George Claseman

    Just as an afterthought, not many law schools other than the top 25 or so can claim two U.S. Supreme Court Justices serving at the same time as being affiliated with the school.

    Chief Justice Warren Burger was a graduate of St. Paul College of Law (later known as William Mitchell College of Law) and Justice Harry Blackmun was adjunct faculty at the school.

  35. I loved WMCL’s night program- I started as a day student and switched after my 3rd semster. I am sure either school is fine- but MONEY MATTERS. I turned down $ at Hamline to go to WMCL. I suggest: go to the one w/ more $ on the table- then keep your grades up. Nothing is worse than having your loans dictate your job choices. I had three job offers out of school: two for $52,000 and a clerkship for $42,000. I took the clerkship because the govt allowed me to forbear my loans (they no longer allow this, and instead require an income-repayment plan). I am now in practice and make only $74,000. Loan payment each month: $1,400.

  36. I’d agree with #32: BEWARE people giving you advice on here who haven’t graduated recently. They graduated at a time when there were only three law schools in Minnesota. They graduated into far better economic times. (Well, unless they graduated during the great depression — not likely!) They graduated into an environment where top tier graduates weren’t crowding out Hamline graduates for low pay, public sector jobs.

    As a Hamline 2009 graduate who keeps in touch with classmates, I assure you that the employment picture is horrible. Others may say its the same for graduates of the other schools locally, but it truly is worse for Hamline grads.

  37. Outside the Classroom

    William Mitchell may be a fine school academically, but I can tell you the working environment at the school is hostile, mentally abusive bordering on bullying, and everyone there thinks they are too good to work there.

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