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	<title>Comments on: ABA to government: Let law students take on more debt</title>
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		<title>By: StephenG</title>
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		<dc:creator>StephenG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you really want to help with the &quot;insurmountalbe cost&quot; then stop raising tuition and stop accrediting new law schools!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you really want to help with the &#8220;insurmountalbe cost&#8221; then stop raising tuition and stop accrediting new law schools!!!</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Make private student grad loans dischargeable under bankruptcy.  The result will be 1) a severe contraction in private loans available, 2) a large drop in students able to go to law school, and 3) either a reversal of tuition prices, or the alternative, shuttering of a number of law schools as no longer lucrative to the parent institutions.

The contraction would be painful, but the results would be relief for many who have gone before and those still  to come.  It might restore the profession to a liveable wage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make private student grad loans dischargeable under bankruptcy.  The result will be 1) a severe contraction in private loans available, 2) a large drop in students able to go to law school, and 3) either a reversal of tuition prices, or the alternative, shuttering of a number of law schools as no longer lucrative to the parent institutions.</p>
<p>The contraction would be painful, but the results would be relief for many who have gone before and those still  to come.  It might restore the profession to a liveable wage.</p>
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		<title>By: skeptic</title>
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		<dc:creator>skeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more easy it is for students to get credit for law school loans, the more money they&#039;ll have available to pay for law school.  The more money students have available to pay for law school, the more law schools will charge for tuition.  Much as I like the free enterprise system, I think the only way to rescue students from insurmountable debt is to limit what law schools can charge IF they are the beneficiaries of government funded student loans.  The gouging has to come to an end.  As a previous commentor said, haven&#039;t we learned from the housing bubble?  Easily available student loans is, IMHO, the chief reason for the huge rise in education costs over the decades versus nearly everything else (sans medical costs).  Why do we keep making the same mistakes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more easy it is for students to get credit for law school loans, the more money they&#8217;ll have available to pay for law school.  The more money students have available to pay for law school, the more law schools will charge for tuition.  Much as I like the free enterprise system, I think the only way to rescue students from insurmountable debt is to limit what law schools can charge IF they are the beneficiaries of government funded student loans.  The gouging has to come to an end.  As a previous commentor said, haven&#8217;t we learned from the housing bubble?  Easily available student loans is, IMHO, the chief reason for the huge rise in education costs over the decades versus nearly everything else (sans medical costs).  Why do we keep making the same mistakes?</p>
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		<title>By: Constantine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Constantine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW WHAT A JOKE!!

Maybe the ABA should think about reducing the number of law schools, or maybe capping the number of students admitted into law school each year!!

The legal profession does not even compare to the medical profession. At least Doctors have jobs!! How can you justify giving students more loans!!

1) Slash law professor salaries!

2) forgive law school debt.

3) Don&#039;t allow another law school to open for at least 150 years!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW WHAT A JOKE!!</p>
<p>Maybe the ABA should think about reducing the number of law schools, or maybe capping the number of students admitted into law school each year!!</p>
<p>The legal profession does not even compare to the medical profession. At least Doctors have jobs!! How can you justify giving students more loans!!</p>
<p>1) Slash law professor salaries!</p>
<p>2) forgive law school debt.</p>
<p>3) Don&#8217;t allow another law school to open for at least 150 years!</p>
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		<title>By: Newly Minted 2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>Newly Minted 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, I said the ABA was saying &quot;remove the tuition cap&quot; when they said &quot;remove the student loan cap&quot;.   But, again, I&#039;d argue the latter will cause the former.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, I said the ABA was saying &#8220;remove the tuition cap&#8221; when they said &#8220;remove the student loan cap&#8221;.   But, again, I&#8217;d argue the latter will cause the former.</p>
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		<title>By: Newly Minted 2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>Newly Minted 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thought, Anonymous:  a movement to close any private school will likely fail because there is little chance for outsiders to apply appropriate pressure.

Public schools, on the other hand, have to answer for substantial public funding.  Additionally 3/4s the new attorneys being popped out now have alma mater&#039;s that are competing with this public funding.  Therefore, ironically, the highest-rated school in the area may be the most vulnerable.

But all of this is off point anyways because the real problem is with the ABA.      Consider two sources of influence to the ABA:  attorney members vs. law schools.  Do statements like &quot;remove the tuition cap&quot; reflect the influence of the attorney membership or law schools?

Clearly there is a problem when the organization approving new law schools has been so obviously captured by the interests of those same law schools, and not the bulk of the attorneys in its membership.  (Many of whom are probably still paying back outrageous school loans.)

This is just another example of our supposedly representative Government being taken over by the monetary influence of organizations.  And anyone who&#039;d like to argue that the ABA hasn&#039;t become a de facto, privatized organ of our Government can be my guest ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thought, Anonymous:  a movement to close any private school will likely fail because there is little chance for outsiders to apply appropriate pressure.</p>
<p>Public schools, on the other hand, have to answer for substantial public funding.  Additionally 3/4s the new attorneys being popped out now have alma mater&#8217;s that are competing with this public funding.  Therefore, ironically, the highest-rated school in the area may be the most vulnerable.</p>
<p>But all of this is off point anyways because the real problem is with the ABA.      Consider two sources of influence to the ABA:  attorney members vs. law schools.  Do statements like &#8220;remove the tuition cap&#8221; reflect the influence of the attorney membership or law schools?</p>
<p>Clearly there is a problem when the organization approving new law schools has been so obviously captured by the interests of those same law schools, and not the bulk of the attorneys in its membership.  (Many of whom are probably still paying back outrageous school loans.)</p>
<p>This is just another example of our supposedly representative Government being taken over by the monetary influence of organizations.  And anyone who&#8217;d like to argue that the ABA hasn&#8217;t become a de facto, privatized organ of our Government can be my guest &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Newly Minted 2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>Newly Minted 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have we learned nothing from the housing bubble?  Make credit cheap, and it will just get priced in.  Law schools need to bring costs DOWN, not have another excuse to make those costs higher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have we learned nothing from the housing bubble?  Make credit cheap, and it will just get priced in.  Law schools need to bring costs DOWN, not have another excuse to make those costs higher.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So create a movement to close Hamline.  I hear a lot of griping but don&#039;t see any action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So create a movement to close Hamline.  I hear a lot of griping but don&#8217;t see any action.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Cohen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MinnPost &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.minnpost.com/stories/2009/11/03/13083/many&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;has a piece today&lt;/a&gt; about law students struggling with debt and joblessness in the current economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MinnPost <a href="http://www.minnpost.com/stories/2009/11/03/13083/many" rel="nofollow">has a piece today</a> about law students struggling with debt and joblessness in the current economy.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d comment further, but I&#039;m too busy trying to make a buck to pay student loans. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d comment further, but I&#8217;m too busy trying to make a buck to pay student loans. . .</p>
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